If he put his hand on your shoulder, you were the anointed candidate for raising money. Having Karl Rove for you was like having Tommy Franks for you if you were a private in the U.S. Army.

They cannot go as far as they need to, there's no question about it.

He was the Republican fighting the war and trying to change the state. If Karl Rove said this is the person I'm working for, that was that.